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 Jan 5 2006, 10:27 PM
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DYMM Seri Paduka Baginda Yang DiPertuan Agong Tun Dr Asphiroth  Group: Gen MODs Posts: 7,890 Thank(s): 149 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Neko City, Land of Hornbill Member No.: 6,797  |
QUOTE (HangPC2 @ Jan 5 2006, 02:12 PM)  hebat la pedang tak nampak macam pedang. macam dalam movie zaitochi... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « http://www.swordart.co.kr/producte/02jingum/produc2a.htm pedang ni ler org guna time meiji era, takleh bawak pedang kat public... |
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Jan 6 2006, 02:03 AM
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Metal Gear  Group: Members Posts: 1,415 Thank(s): 343 Joined: 10-January 05 From: MAREESHIA Member No.: 8,125 |
QUOTE (Asphiroth @ Jan 6 2006, 06:27 AM) QUOTE (HangPC2 @ Jan 5 2006, 02:12 PM) hebat la pedang tak nampak macam pedang. macam dalam movie zaitochi... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « http://www.swordart.co.kr/producte/02jingum/produc2a.htm pedang ni ler org guna time meiji era, takleh bawak pedang kat public... yg pakai sampai sekarang tu shirasaya ni untuk pakcik yg old timer lah.... |
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Jan 26 2006, 10:07 AM
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Metal Gear Group: Members Posts: 1,415 Thank(s): 343 Joined: 10-January 05 From: MAREESHIA Member No.: 8,125 |
Pedang China ''Miao Dao''' Menyerupai Katana
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Chang Dao (Long Sword) Based Design Form Japanese Nodachi » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Miao Dao Miao Dao, developed from Chang Dao (Long Dao) of Ming Dynasty, earned its current name during Republican era (1912 - 1949 AD) when it is untilised by the army. Miao Dao is longer than most Dao in Chinese History, and is longer than Japanese Katana. Our Miao Dao are based on design of more recent version of Miao Dao. Specifications Standard Blade Length: 80 - 90 CM | 31.5 - 35.5 Inch Hilt Length: 30 CM | 12 Inch Teknik (Method) ''Pi Gua Quan Miao Dao'' Mengunakan Miao Dao. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Historical Background Miao Dao, often referred to as Chang Dao prior to Republican Era. It was developed in the campaign against pirates (or ?? - WoKou) aka Japanese Pirate @ Japanese Bandits along the Chinese coastline border in Ming Dynasty (1368 - 1644 AD). Miao Dao, along with its martial art was less well known after as it is practice only within few martial art families. During the war against Japanese invasion in Republican era (1912 - 1949 AD), Miao Dao is again utilised by the army. The name of "Miao Dao" was obtained during this period and the art has since opened to every martial art practitioner. Credit http://www.zhengwutang.com/ http://thomaschen.freewebspace.com/contact.html |
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Feb 18 2006, 03:48 AM
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Metal Gear Group: Members Posts: 1,415 Thank(s): 343 Joined: 10-January 05 From: MAREESHIA Member No.: 8,125 |
Senjata Orang Ainu Lebih Kurang Sama Macam Senjata Orang Jepun ''KATANA''
Pedang Ainu Dikenali sebagai ''EMUSH'' » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Tali pengantung ''EMUSH'' » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « (IMG:http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4143/0478mv.jpg) (IMG:http://img436.imageshack.us/img436/2271/ainu5qg.jpg) ''Ainu Sword Dance'' Ainu = Orang Asli Utara Hokkaido |
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Feb 18 2006, 11:08 AM
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Metal Gear Group: Members Posts: 1,415 Thank(s): 343 Joined: 10-January 05 From: MAREESHIA Member No.: 8,125 |
Japanese Sword ''Zukuri'' Styles
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Hira Zukuri (Rare In Daito) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Kiriha Zukuri (Rare - Archaic Form) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Kogarasu-Maru "Little Crow" Zukuri (Kissaka-Maroha Zukuri) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Shinogi Zukuri (Most Common Nihon-to Shape) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Kissaki In The Shinogi Zukuri "Regarding blade form and samurai culture in the history" Some type of kissaki is typical in a particular period of time. Of course it comes from practical advantages in the fighting style but that is not the only reason. The spirit of the samurai culture makes the style of each period. The late Heian to the early Kamakura period In the 12th century, the samurais' status is not so high. They are guards of the nobility. The government never stand without samurai but they don't have political power. They fight often for the political game of the nobilities. And they are longing for the nobility culture. In the battle field, the main weapon is the bow and arrow, so the armour is heavy and hard. The typical blade style in this period is big funbari, emphatic koshi-zori, and ko-kissaki. It is elegant for the eyes and good to aim for the openings in the armour. But all blade is not the same so there are various types of blades in every period. I speak about just the typical type of each period. The early Kamakura period to the middle At the end of 12th century, samurais get their own government. Officially, it is a guard of the emperor. Blades become strong and powerful. The late Kamakura period In the late 13th century, Japan gets attacked by Mongols twice. Samurais fight very hard and then they have to prepare for the third attack. The period is very exciting and samurais are united against the next invasion. In this period the blade with an ikubi-kissaki is typical. The strong blade with ikubi-kissaki is a symbol of the samurai spirit in this age. A short and thick kissaki may be heavy duty. The Nanbokucho period In the early 14th century, the samurai government is broken and two imperial governments appear. Samurais fight each other for their emperors. In this period there is no order in samurai society. Each samurai tries to display themselves to emphasize their power. In this period, large and o-kissaki blades become typical. So also is a very artificial wavy hamon and designed engravings. Such a blade is easy for the eyes to feel the power. The Muromachi, Momoyama, and Edo period After the 15th century, most of the blades have chu-kissaki or o-kissaki. There is no era that is a special kissaki type. In history, the style of the blade is a fashion of the period. Probably it means the spirit of the samurai culture in the period. Chu-Kissaki » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « It is the meaning of shape. "chu" means "middle". The width and the length of the kissaki are in good proportion. The length is a little bigger than the width. It is common on a katana. Ikubi-Kissaki » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « It is a little short. The kissaki width and the length is almost same or the length is smaller than the width. It looks hard and steady. It is the typical shape of tachi in 13th century. This kissaki appears on broad and thick blades in the period. Kamasu-Kissaki » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « The line from the start of the kissaki to the top of it is almost straight. Such a kissaki is especially called "kamasu-" even if the kissaki is long or short. It looks very sharp. This type has a little different meaning than other types. Because, this type is an original shape of the kissaki before the 14th century. So this type is very rare today. The tip is very sharp and delicate so it is easy to be broken in a fight. The kissaki line easily becomes round by re-polishing after use. We can see kamasu type only in some old temple or shrine as a treasure. They were put in there before use to celebrate Buddha or god. Therefore we have to change the image of the kissaki shape when we think about the original in the period of samurai living before 14th century. After the 15th century most of the kissaki shape is "chu-" and "o-kissaki". There has never been seen "ikubi-" or "ko-kissaki". Ko-Kissaki » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « It is not a matter of shape. It means "small kissaki" and it is a matter of size. Most of the time, the word is used for tachi in 12th century. For example such blades have a long blade (about 80 cm), a wide width at the base (about 30 mm), and the blade becomes narrow towards the kissaki, (about 15 mm width at kissaki). The kissaki looks very small compared to the base. Such kissaki is especially called "ko-kissaki". Such blades have to have big funbari and an emphatic koshizori. The shape of this kissaki is almost the same as the chu-kissaki or ikubi-kissaki. O-Kissaki » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « It is a long kissaki. "o" means "large". It looks emphatic for eyes. The kissaki length is far larger than the width. This type started in the 14th century. It appears on a large blade, over 90 cm long. The blade width also is large towards the kissaki and it is proportional to the length. But the thickness doesn't become large. And a wavy hamon pattern (notare) were developed at the same age as a set with long kissaki. |
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Mar 10 2006, 02:12 AM
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Metal Gear Group: Members Posts: 1,415 Thank(s): 343 Joined: 10-January 05 From: MAREESHIA Member No.: 8,125 |
Pedang (Katana & Tachi) Sebenar Milik Shogun Dan Daimyo Terkenal Jepun
TACHI Minamoto Yoritomo (1180) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « TACHI Hojo Tokimune (Kamakura) (1274) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « TACHI Takeda Shingen (1570) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « KATANA Usegi Kenshin (1573) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « KATANA Oda Nobunaga (1576) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « KATANA Toyotomi Hideyoshi (1590) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « KATANA Tokugawa Leyasu (1605) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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Mar 10 2006, 02:24 AM
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Fafner Group: Members Posts: 2,530 Thank(s): 19 Joined: 23-December 04 From: Destroying galaxies with Ide Member No.: 8,020 |
huhuhu... cun. ada tak katana/tachi sebenar oleh pemedang terhebat jepun, Miyamoto Musashi (IMG:http://forum.saiyaman.info/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Mar 10 2006, 09:29 AM
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Allexandria : What Is Sexy Group: Members Posts: 8,620 Thank(s): 206 Joined: 10-March 05 From: Worse Roads In Malaysia, Malacca Shucks and also S.Petani Member No.: 8,415 |
Samurai Longsword tu mmg cun.
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Mar 10 2006, 09:40 AM
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Hokage Group: Members Posts: 949 Thank(s): 24 Joined: 23-April 05 From: somewhere like heaven n hell Member No.: 8,831 |
smart tull....
rase cam nak sambar 1 jer.... |
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Mar 10 2006, 10:38 AM
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Bokuto Chief Group: Members Posts: 399 Thank(s): 3 Joined: 11-June 05 From: Malaysia Member No.: 9,468 |
Hangpc2,luas pengetahuan tentang katana yer.AKu pun minat dgn pedang nih.
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Mar 10 2006, 10:55 AM
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Metal Gear Group: Members Posts: 1,415 Thank(s): 343 Joined: 10-January 05 From: MAREESHIA Member No.: 8,125 |
QUOTE (reppu_kiri @ Mar 10 2006, 10:24 AM) huhuhu... cun. ada tak katana/tachi sebenar oleh pemedang terhebat jepun, Miyamoto Musashi (IMG:http://forum.saiyaman.info/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) katana Sebenar Miyamoto Musashi dipamerkan di muzium Musashi (Kyoto) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Replika Katana Miyamoto Musashi » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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Mar 11 2006, 11:48 AM
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Metal Gear Group: Members Posts: 1,415 Thank(s): 343 Joined: 10-January 05 From: MAREESHIA Member No.: 8,125 |
Katana Jepun Di Zaman Ayuthaya (Siam)
Pedang = Daab » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Pedang Siam (Daab) dipengaruhi Oleh Reka Bentuk Katana Jepun Daab Yippon » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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Mar 14 2006, 08:05 AM
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Galbanian Soldier Group: Members Posts: 92 Thank(s): 0 Joined: 13-March 06 Member No.: 12,605 |
aku ada jumpa katana replica kat central market harga dia tulis rm400 lepas tu dia kata dia nak jual 280 aku pun pelik tak jadi beli.korang rasa orang macam ini cuba menipuke
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Mar 14 2006, 08:13 AM
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Metal Gear Group: Members Posts: 1,121 Thank(s): 58 Joined: 4-May 05 From: Galaxy not so far away Member No.: 9,067 |
QUOTE (Dark_Tsubasa @ Mar 14 2006, 07:05 PM) aku ada jumpa katana replica kat central market harga dia tulis rm400 lepas tu dia kata dia nak jual 280 aku pun pelik tak jadi beli.korang rasa orang macam ini cuba menipuke Kalo nak cari, cari le katana ori hehehe |
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Mar 20 2006, 06:12 AM
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Galbanian Soldier Group: Members Posts: 92 Thank(s): 0 Joined: 13-March 06 Member No.: 12,605 |
QUOTE (Exiled_Gundam @ Mar 14 2006, 04:13 PM) QUOTE (Dark_Tsubasa @ Mar 14 2006, 07:05 PM) aku ada jumpa katana replica kat central market harga dia tulis rm400 lepas tu dia kata dia nak jual 280 aku pun pelik tak jadi beli.korang rasa orang macam ini cuba menipuke Kalo nak cari, cari le katana ori hehehe ori mahal dekat beribu2 ringgit (yang aku tahu) |
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Mar 21 2006, 03:44 AM
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Metal Gear Group: Members Posts: 1,415 Thank(s): 343 Joined: 10-January 05 From: MAREESHIA Member No.: 8,125 |
Semasa Perang Dunia Kedua, Pedang Jepun Dipakai Oleh Askar Jepun Yang mula-mula dikenali Oleh Masyarakat Tanah Melayu (Malaya) semasa penjajah jepun, sebagai Pedang Samurai.
Sejarah Pengistiharan Haitorei pada tahun 1876 hampir mengharamkan pedang dan senjata api, melumpuhkan golongan samurai. Bagaimanapun, kebangkitan terhadap pengistiharan ini dan pemerintahan tentera mengakibatkan meledaknya semangat kebangsaan dan sokongan terhadap maharaja yang sebelum ini hanyalah sekadar lambang. Ketika Perang Dunia I, Jepun adalah setaraf dengan kuasa dunia dari segi ketenteraan. Bagaimanapun secara umum, ia juga menandakan berakhirnya zaman samurai kerana senjata api turut diperkenalkan kembali. Ia juga menandakan tempoh kemerosotan dalam kualiti penghasilan pedang, apabila katana secara beransur digantikan dengan Gunto: pedang saber murah untuk pegawai tentera laut. Di bawah pendudukan Amerika Syarikat pada akhir Perang Dunia II golongan samurai dibubarkan sama sekali dan pedang diharamkan . Hanya pedang yang merupakan khazanah seni, yang tidak boleh dikeluarkan dari muzium atau kuil dibenarkan. Disebabkan oleh perlucutan senjata ini, pada 1958 terdapat lebih banyak pedang Jepun di Amerika Syarikat berbanding yang kekal terdapat di Jepun: Tentera Amerika yang kembali dari Orient dengan timbunan pedang, sebanyak yang mungkin. Sebahagian besar daripada lebih 100,000 pedang adalah dari jenis gunto, tetapi terdapat juga sebilangan daripadanya dari jenis shin-shinto. Ini melambangkan cabaran terakhir pada kuasa samurai pada abad terkini. Bagaimanapun, penghasilan pedang berterusan kembali, walaupun ini disebabkan oleh keperluan budaya dan bukannya disebabkan oleh peperangan. Sumber Wikipedia Kebanyakan Pedang Gunto (Pedang Ketenteraan Jepun) Buatan Kilang (Mesin) tanda Pembuat Pedang (Kilang) dibahagian ''Tang'' (IMG:http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6899/commontangstamps5dg.gif) (IMG:http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/737/ua2agunto0210010dm.jpg) Shin Gunto » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « NCO Shin Gunto » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Kai Gunto (Untuk Pegawai Tentera Laut) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Kyu Gunto (Russo-Japanese Style Mounts) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Tentera Darat » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Tentera Laut » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Kyu Gunto (Pedang Gunto Zaman Pendudukan Jepun Di Tanah Jajahan) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Jajahan Korea » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Jajahan Taiwan » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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Apr 21 2006, 01:18 PM
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Metal Gear Group: Members Posts: 1,254 Thank(s): 171 Joined: 25-March 05 From: rumah dan ofis Member No.: 8,547 |
tgkle cite rough trades kat national geographic mlm nih, cite pasal penempa pedang di jepun...
EDIT: alamak silap, ingatkan buat pedang, rupenye buat pisau sushi.. tp mahal nak mampos... 500 euro lebih sebilah! This post has been edited by or0: Apr 22 2006, 03:32 AM |
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Apr 26 2006, 10:05 AM
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Metal Gear Group: Members Posts: 1,415 Thank(s): 343 Joined: 10-January 05 From: MAREESHIA Member No.: 8,125 |
QUOTE (or0 @ Apr 21 2006, 09:18 PM) tgkle cite rough trades kat national geographic mlm nih, cite pasal penempa pedang di jepun... EDIT: alamak silap, ingatkan buat pedang, rupenye buat pisau sushi.. tp mahal nak mampos... 500 euro lebih sebilah! mesti Besi yg dier pakai berkualiti banyak karbon.... tu yang mahal tu.... (IMG:http://forum.saiyaman.info/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Apr 26 2006, 10:57 AM
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Hokage Group: Members Posts: 949 Thank(s): 24 Joined: 23-April 05 From: somewhere like heaven n hell Member No.: 8,831 |
klau banyak karbon lagi bagus ker?
lagi tajam.... skali slash jer trus putus 2? |
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Apr 27 2006, 02:55 AM
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Metal Gear Group: Members Posts: 1,415 Thank(s): 343 Joined: 10-January 05 From: MAREESHIA Member No.: 8,125 |
QUOTE (semibrain @ Apr 26 2006, 06:57 PM) klau banyak karbon lagi bagus ker? lagi tajam.... skali slash jer trus putus 2? Lagi banyak karbon lagi berkualiti Mata Pedang tu.. Material (Bijih Besi) Pedang Tradisional Jepun Jenis ''TAMAHAGANE Dan OROSHIGANE'' Tamahagane (Besi Permata) (IMG:http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/156/tamahagane27rp.jpg) Tamahagane Yang Mempunyai karbon yang banyak disebelah Kiri Dan yang Kanan Pula Tamahagane Yang Kurang Karbon Oroshigane (IMG:http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/654/imagekra5xy.jpg) (IMG:http://img287.imageshack.us/img287/9694/image6i92ul.jpg) Oroshigane adalah besi campuran tukang besi (tukang pedang) dicampur dengan Tamahagane. More Info -----> http://www.ksky.ne.jp/%7Esumie99/steel.html#TAMAHAGANE Kalau Tajam Pula Bergantung Kepada Patern Mata Pedang (Hamon) dan cara Penjagaan dan Mengasah bilah pedang itu.. Hamon (IMG:http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/795/image05v5ma.jpg) (IMG:http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7867/image9c30ja.jpg) Info ----> http://www.ksky.ne.jp/%7Esumie99/hamon.html Polish (IMG:http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2844/image1n97ui.jpg) (IMG:http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/1339/imagedfd0dj.jpg) Info ----> http://www.ksky.ne.jp/%7Esumie99/togi,process.html |
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