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Why does everyone hate shin?, why do u hate shin? Pro and Con!
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post Jun 20 2005, 09:27 PM
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You offended me,

Very Much to the Point of hating you!!

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post Jun 21 2005, 12:44 AM
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a lot of words so im not gonna read it but i guess you offended venom
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post Jun 21 2005, 03:40 AM
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Ok, Shinn isnt evil, full stop, its common sense, you Shinn haters are just looking at it from a very biased point of view.
"Omg he killed Kira the most angelistic heavenly man in a gundam"
Like... when the hell has Shinn ever seen him be this angel? lol

1. Blows up Minerva's gun at critical point in battle.
2. Disables Shinn's firearms at 1st Orb Confrontation.
3. Indirectly the reason for Haine's death.
4. Attacks Shinn at 2nd Orb confrontation.
5. Annihilates Athrun's gundam (think what shinn thinks "This guy does nothing but praise him, yet he annihilates him, what an asshole")
6. Attacks Destroy when Shinn had it "under control" (even though its not how WE see it, it is how Shinn does)

I mean, what good has Shinn seen Kira do (in his perspective)?

Stop thinking how cool Kira and such are, and start thinking how Shinn is thinking =P
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post Jun 21 2005, 05:41 AM
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This is my first post and I think I should reply anyway after reading, it's quite interesting~ I'm just bored. I signed up to reply.

I don't think Shinn is evil. He isn't , in a war when you lose someone dear to you, in Shinn's case, Stellar and his family, I think he was driven to the point of desperation to protect what he has which he shows through fighting. You really have to applaud his strong sense of justice. He is really like what Neo said as a "straightforward and determined kid" but I don't agree with the way he behaves and fights. That's probably why I dislike him. I never liked his attitude to begin with, it really rubs you in the wrong way. Even Rey said that he had a proble with his attitude. I don't like the fact that he and Rey exploited that Kira wouldn't kill him and 'strategized' against.

I thought it was despicable and low even though you have to emphasize with him after the death of Stellar. The only thing I cannot understand is why does he fight with the military since it was military conflict that brought the death of his family. It fuelled more hatred from him towards ORB but doesn't he realise that everytime he fought, he puts others in the same position as he was in when his family died? He had became just like the people who caused the death of his family.

Well, in the beginning he was pretty cool, now I think he is honestly a wreck and he needs to discover for himself why he is fighting and stop obeying orders from ZAFT like a military lap dog( I'm sure Dullindal is up to something). And he really should think before he opens his mouth. That would make some pretty good character development. Well, another 15 episodes. Well, actually I like him more that Kira in SEED, though Kira is a lot better in Destiny. Shinn is more passionate about his beliefs, less whiny. I was never a big fan of Shinn.
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post Jun 21 2005, 06:05 AM
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Yeah pretty much, Shinn will either develope and come to the understanding that he is simply causing for others what the military caused him, in loss.
Or he will simply never realise this, or realise it at the very end (in the scenario where he is completely insane till the end lol)
I like the character since its different from the usual plot where the "main character" never does anything significantly bad to look on as bad.
I mean Kira killed Nicol, but seriously who gave a rats ###### about Nicol, and kira wasnt in blood lust mode.
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post Jun 21 2005, 07:21 AM
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Well thats why i like shinn he is the oppossite of kira but same beliefs,
If shinn doesn't snap when is Zaft's turn to destroy Orb. welll, we might never gonna see him snap, To realize he is just dullindals Puppet! (IMG:http://forum.saiyaman.info/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 21 2005, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE (Ikuraga @ Jun 20 2005, 11:17 PM)
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Dude, next time you're gonna post a huge story, use paragraphs. It's VERY hard to read.

Aside from that, I don't see you stating that Shinn is evil. You don't like Shinn because he's a blockhead. That's perfectly fine with me. I just don't like it when people call him evil when he is not.
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post Jun 21 2005, 01:18 PM
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Kira/SF + Athrun/IJ + Shinn/Destiny = whoah "drool all over"
if they go against durandall... durandall has no chance
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post Jun 21 2005, 05:22 PM
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thats why Shinn is with Dullindal and Maniacal rey! (IMG:http://forum.saiyaman.info/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 21 2005, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE (Alex @ Jun 21 2005, 01:44 PM)
QUOTE (Ikuraga @ Jun 20 2005, 11:17 PM)
A lot of stuff.
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Dude, next time you're gonna post a huge story, use paragraphs. It's VERY hard to read.

Aside from that, I don't see you stating that Shinn is evil. You don't like Shinn because he's a blockhead. That's perfectly fine with me. I just don't like it when people call him evil when he is not.
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post Jun 21 2005, 05:34 PM
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fara Goddam I love me, so shinn Loves himself so that doesn't make him evil!
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you are evil venom... pure evil... j/k (IMG:http://forum.saiyaman.info/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jun 21 2005, 07:11 PM
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shinn cackled.

cackles are evil and used by witches.

Thus by using the power of flawed logic...





(IMG:http://forum.saiyaman.info/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Shinn is an evil witch !! (IMG:http://forum.saiyaman.info/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
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post Jun 21 2005, 07:46 PM
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SHItN is just like anakin except for his terrible manners...

Judging from his behaviour, he will turn himself into evil for his own sake...
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post Jun 21 2005, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE (sharingan devil @ Jun 21 2005, 07:46 PM)
SHItN is just like anakin except for his terrible manners...

Judging from his behaviour, he will turn himself into evil for his own sake...
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I agree with the Anakin thing, because Shinn is heading Directly into the Dark Side now... at the begining it it was normal charakter, but after all theese eps, i see him as Arrogant person who hates mostly everyone, who is not in the Minerva or ZAFT( although he also hates Arthrun)... If he Continues on doing things like that ( The Sith Master gifted A new powewrfull Lightsaber to anakin, and he was very happy... you know about htat i talk...Destiny LOL) There are Two Posibillities to Him:
1) To GO Complete Antagonist and VERY EVIL (aka Darth Vader)....
2) To be Antagonist , but realize that what he is doing is WRONG and become good again ( well, i dont think whis Option will happen)

At this Point, Shin IS EVIL and thats why "everyone" hates HIm.... and he WILL be Evil Until Someon Will Kick His A$$, and he would gain some brain this way....or die...
And yes SHIN MUST DIE, I HATE HIM....i
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post Jun 21 2005, 10:14 PM
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i hate kira he is too perfect , shinn sounds like a human so thats why i like him

Kira must die For his insolence!!! (IMG:http://forum.saiyaman.info/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://forum.saiyaman.info/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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QUOTE (Venom @ Jun 21 2005, 10:14 PM)
i hate kira he is too perfect , shinn sounds like a human so thats why i like him

Kira must die For his insolence!!!  (IMG:http://forum.saiyaman.info/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)   (IMG:http://forum.saiyaman.info/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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Kira is not too perfect, he has its weak and Strong Sides, and for shinn you like Bad Guy who laughs after he killed the enemy, which does not wanted to kill anyone...when it is as i Thought if Shinn is Sith Aprentice, when u Are Sith MAster....( and i thoght it was rey or Chairman)
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post Jun 21 2005, 10:30 PM
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I'm the darkside and The Bad Guy kira need to die!! just like in my picture down my screen!!
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post Jun 21 2005, 10:35 PM
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dude but they said
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KIRA WILL DEFEAT evil durandall... cuz KIRA IS IMMORTAL
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post Jun 21 2005, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE (Venom @ Jun 21 2005, 10:30 PM)
I'm the darkside and The Bad Guy kira need to die!! just like in my picture down my screen!!
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